9/27/2023 0 Comments Dave butler radioSo it was all thoroughly military-orientated. Everything was targeted and it was all to do with gathering intelligence. We could steal things - and with Her Majesty's government's blessing.ĭAVE BUTLER: We weren't just a load of hooligans out there, just stealing everything in sight because we could. And so, yes, it was a rather unique position in that we could actually break all the laws. So, therefore, that meant we - in a diplomatic role - could basically go where we want, to do what we want in our vehicles, and we could basically break all those speed limits, ignore the police, and never stop for an East German or anybody in authority. That arrangement allowed both East and West to gather military intelligence in each other’s territory, by pretending - for more than 40 years - that the Second World War had only just finished.ĭAVE BUTLER: The British government basically didn't recognize the East German government. NARRATOR: Brixmis was a deliberately boring name disguising a bizarre arrangement. So, from an intelligence-gathering perspective, it was a real honeypot for us to swirl around in. In the three years I was there, there were 386,000 Soviet troops based in the eastern half of Germany and 280,000 equipment - whether it was air artillery, ground-based equipment - so, and although East Germany is quite a big area, to have that amount of concentrated military in that area, almost everywhere you went, every corner you turn around, you bumped into something military. This was the mission of Brixmis - a virtually unknown clandestine faction operating behind enemy lines in the years after the Berlin Wall went up.ĭAVE BUTLER: So, in East Germany during the Cold War, there was the Soviet Army and there was the East German Nationale Volksarmee, or the NBA, as they were called. NARRATOR: He’s trying to get reconnaissance on what kind of fire-power and technology the Russians have ahead of the anticipated Third World War. NARRATOR: … And chasing him are Soviet troops.ĭAVE BUTLER: Our immediate concern then was them finding us with cameras and recording equipment and we would be almost bang to rights as spies. The man being chased through dense forest is the British former Cold War spy Dave Butler.ĭAVE BUTLER: I served in Brixmis - the British Commander in Chief's mission to the Soviet Forces in Germany from 1986 to 1989. I mean, you never hear the bullet that kills you. if we had been shot at, we wouldn't have heard it. And you're trying to map read, telling the driver when to turn left, when it was a bit like rally driving in really close proximity. This is True Spies Episode 63: Catch Me if You Can.ĭAVE BUTLER: In the heat of the moment, picture yourself rushing through a wood doing about 60 miles an hour down a wooded track. What do they know? What are their skills? And what would YOU do in their position? You’ll meet the people who navigate this secret world. Week by week, mission by mission, you’ll hear the true stories behind the world’s greatest espionage operations. NFL footage © NFL Productions LLC.True Spies Episode 63: Catch Me if You Can All other NFL-related trademarks are trademarks of the National Football League. NFL and the NFL shield design are registered trademarks of the National Football League.The team names, logos and uniform designs are registered trademarks of the teams indicated.
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